You were one of the eight people who started fighting for the usage of land in New Bethesda

in 2006 and you started farming in 2009.

In 2009 we got the land by the municipality.

Was it easy to convince the municipality?

It wasn't easy.

It took us three years to convince them to get the land.

My store

Food for the Peaks

we dumped it in there

mixed it and sprayed at night.

We sprayed the sheep.

Since 2009 many other people joined farming on the commonage ground.

Would you say the commonage ground is sufficient for all the commonage farmers?

No.

No, I don't think so.

The grazing land is not enough for our animals in New Bethesda.

There are too many animals.

No, it's not.

We need more land because some of us have more livestock.

In 2014 we were born on this farm.

It was a very big farm.

Now we are starting to get land here.

That's what I would like to do.

Many people are now fighting for having land.

Yes

a lot of guys stand up

smoke bombs

got one goat and they also like to have land.

Some got about 50 sheep.

It's possible they can get because the sheep are expensive.

They can get.

And lots of them are not registered because it's a process.

If you like to farm

you must first do your paperwork.

Your paperwork is you must have a branding mark.

If you do it in Pretoria, they gave you the branding mark.

I apply with my whole family for a farm.

There are some conflicts between the commonage farmers and the newcomers who own one goat

for example.

You have fought for getting municipal land registered to you.

What are the problems commonage farmers in New Bethesda are facing?

If you leave a goat here at night, tomorrow you will never get the goat.

You will be gone.

We are fighting for the whole war of the Department of Agriculture.

And in terms of grain

food

grass or grass.

The grass is in the support of the government.

It's a problem that people can't understand.

We can't help with all the problems that we face.