Thank you.

Since this is the first time I'm getting an official place, I

should also say thank you to Marcus and the organisers and

also to say thank you to colleagues who have preceded me

and who have been very kind to me. I'm very happy to be part

of this kind of position of human rights. It actually makes

me feel so delighted to be part of this kind of community,

because I feel we are constantly learning. I think this is the

only panel that's been posed a question rather than to be given

a topic. So I feel that our responsibility simply is to

answer the question and go away and not to...

or part of the solution. When I saw the panellists and I thought

Claire, Anita, Eduardo, and I thought well,

you're not going to get any answer but yes. And I know

Eduardo has promised me a potential no, but there is no human rights

business is not part of the problem, it is part of the solution. So I try as much as possible

to make my contribution to that answer.

But first of all, I want to be able to share with you my

agreement with the sentiments that there is nothing very simple

about human rights and that the

value of human rights lies in the outcomes of contestation.

And we often say this because we observe

interesting times we live in. There are often very many reasons

why we think we live in interesting times.

Forgive me while I try to make this thing work.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, now

many reasons why we think we live in interesting times.

We think politics of our times are very interesting and I'm not going to go into details.

Just mention Donald Trump and it is interesting.

We mention Brexit too and politics is interesting.

Duterte makes politics interesting. Bolsonaro, we mention Iraq,

Syria, Sudan, Rwanda, Victor Ovan,

and many more. And we think politics is interesting.

Economics can also be very interesting because of the 2008

financial crisis. Enron is

economically interesting. And you mention a name like Michael Moore

and it makes economics interesting for all that he has produced.

If you watch movies, one of those movies like Blood Diamonds

makes our times very interesting. But if we step away from the movies

and we think of serious things like child labour, modern slavery,

human trafficking, that makes economics a very interesting

question. The subject of the environment is also very interesting.

It's interesting because of a 16-year-old called

Greta Thunberg who has really made us pay attention and that makes

environment discussion. But you step away from Greta Thunberg and go back

30 years and Bupao is still very interesting.

Deepwater Horizon for those of you who know will make it